Also, Joseph went against most people’s assumptions to declare that Adam, Enoch, and Noah lived in North America, not the Middle East–so he was already contradicting common interpretations taken from the Bible in other areas. Yes, the brother of Jared goes “at the head of” the party into to the valley (Ether 1:42), spoke with Jesus face-to-face (Ether 3:20), and was tasked with building barges and obtaining light (Ether 2:16, 25). Jaredites had a true civilization from about. Scientists allege that a “highly mobile” group of hunter gatherers would consist of between 20 and 50 individuals. » Jaredites In North America | The products (services) offered by Wayne May are neither made, provided, approved nor endorsed by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Nowadays, it’s a giant mound formed of dirt, rocks, and garbage deposited there as the temple was being mysteriously buried around 10,000 years ago. If you are looking for plausible evidence of the Jaredites and Nephi... tes in North America from 3000 BC to 500 AD, you will find all sorts of information by reputable archaeologists and scientists. Interestingly, scientists have recently discovered that a symbol on the “belt” of one of these pillars actually means “God”. Now, these books were fun to read. Brigid O' … Knowing that the languages would be confounded, Jared asked his brother to… Any help on this would be appreciated. Perhaps this “mount” Zerin was actually a glacier or iceberg that stood in their way, and the brother of Jared moved it out of their path with his faith? The person who believes Phoenicians/North Africans came to South America believes these people came at about the time Lehi and party arrived, possibly earlier. Based on animals now living in North America (including Mesoamerica), there would have been many, many other kinds of mammals present when both the Jaredites and the Nephites arrived. If these places are indeed what’s being described in the Book of Abraham, then Olishem, Ur, and Haran all lie in southern Turkey, and are all likely within about 100 miles of Gobekli Tepe. In the book’s long included list of kings, there are four instances where a father-to-son relationship is not specified, but rather the equivocal term “descendant” is used. Einkorn, of course, was first domesticated at or around Gobekli Tepe. Some traditions hold that after the people were scattered, the Tower of Babel was destroyed by a strong wind; and the Jaredites experience lots of forceful wind during their sojourn (Ether 2:24, 6:5). Was Lehi Here? Obviously he couldn’t receive a real endowment in a fake temple from a monolithic god. For at least some of these transitions, it could have been hundreds, if not thousands of years. Interestingly, the Folsom’s main area appears to have stretched roughly from the Great Salt Lake (the Rocky Mountains) to the Mississippi River, and from the Great Lakes to Northern Mexico. But it makes so much more sense if Ur, Olishem, and Haran were closer to the original great tower, Gobekli Tepe. These people are called Adena, which is the name Thomas Worthington had given a mound on his property in the early 1800s near Chillicothe, Illinois. North America, for example, has 474 indigenous species of mammals, 11 and Mesoamerica has a large majority of these species within its borders. The 4,000 BC figure was reckoned by a guy named James Ussher in the 1600s, who used the years mentioned in the Bible, along with some historical sources to get there. The only real markers we have to build a working chronology from are firstly, the date of the “dearth” and megafauna extinction given in the narrative of Heth Ether 9:25. If the actual cureloms and cumoms are indeed among these animals listed here, then the Jaredites would have to have been in the Americas around or before 10 ka to find them abundant and useful. I don’t remember which scholar pointed out that the Jaredites were not necessarily Christians. And they would have had to have been “highly mobile” since they trekked from the Fertile Crescent all the way to the Americas. Nothin’ wrong with speculation, just make sure your followers know exactly when you’ve moved onto that path. Jaredites in North America $19.95 The Jaredites in North America by Wayne May. Perhaps Nimrod’s title is a clue to the time period in which “the great tower” was built (Mosiah 28:17). Also, a date for the departure of the Jaredites is never given. The oldest known cave art goes back before 60,000 years ago, and it meant something to the person who painted it. While this statement definitely could have been true in 2600 BC, it’s way more likely to have been true in 8000 BC. All it says is that “the Lord confounded the language of the people” and “the people were scattered” (Ether 1:33). However, we are not told explicitly that the first Jaredite party had cattle, only that their descendants had “cattle” among them in the promised land (Ether 9:18). Urfa, also in Turkey, is a traditional site for Abraham’s Ur, and is not too far from where Ulisum could have been. Thank you Ttyl. It may help many parts of the story fit better than they did before, and it may open up a world of possibilities about our God that you might never have considered. I’d love to hear more of your thoughts. Wouldn’t have the people at the Tower of Babel been aware of their ancestor Noah and the great flood that brought him to a new land? Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. While small populations of these creatures may have survived beyond 2600 BC, a successful Jaredite-megafauna coexistence is way more likely in 8,000 BC. The author highlights the stone workmanship, mummies, and metallurgy in Peru. Of course, it’s all speculation, so take it with a grain of salt; but here is my case that the Jaredites are far more ancient than we think. Perhaps coincidentally, the North Pacific current takes about the same time to cross from Japan to Mexico (Sorenson, p. 111). Helaman 8:18 says that before Abraham, there were lots of people called after the order of the Son, “that it should be shown unto the people, a great many thousand years before his coming, that even redemption should come unto them.” Although this verse is up for interpretation, “a great many thousand years” sounds like much more than the mere 4 thousand or less we generally assign to Adam, Enoch, and Noah. In 1832, W. W. Phelps wrote that “from the Mississippi to the Rocky Mountains…Jaredites were in their glory upon this choice land above all others…” If the Jaredites left from Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 years ago, they may have been associated with the Folsom tradition, a group of people that thrived in North America from about 9 ka to 4.5 ka. 1. If Noah’s flood happened 11,600-12,800 years ago, then it’s reasonable that the basis for the Tower of Babel myth happened 10-12 thousand years ago. 6. �]���/#3��PE6��b(P=P���Uz�V$�q؊{����e"�Az�~�TFߜ����c��$�s�!�솦c2p������=4�0o-��&�tD�r����'�5'�(4DzǼ䝖��1�E�H�uCGqI����M�v)=��m�����0M� ��}�3��9M�r�%����~�o÷�p�H�×mc���}EE? If the Jaredites truly ventured into a “quarter” of the earth where no human being had yet explored, finding such a place would surely have been easier in 8000 BC than in 2600 BC. Thus, the Jaredites finding them “especially” “useful” could indicate a much older departure date from the great tower than 2600 BC (Ether 9:18-19). And how much easier would it be for his writings to be undecipherable 10,000 years later rather than 4,500 years later (had he lived in 2600 BC)? http://exhibits.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/larson/sloth.html#:~:text=All%20four%20species%20of%20ground%20sloth%20became%20extinct%20in%20North,is%20being%20studied%20by%20paleontologists. Could this be describing part of the megafauna extinction around 10,000 years ago? Now, I’m sure you’ll want to delete this, or refute it with great indignation, and I support whatever action you take completely. Artifacts from Ancient Americans Watch as Wayne May presents many of the ancient American artifacts found in North America and see how they line up with the Nephite, Lamanite and Jaredite culture. 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Considering that Joseph Smith taught that Adam and his descendants lived in North America, and that Noah may have lived in or near the Carolinas, this impactor may have been what caused Noah’s flood—just thousands of years earlier than the traditional 2348 BC. locations for the Jaredites. “Many years” after Riplakish is killed and his posterity driven out of the land, Morianton, “a descendant of Riplakish,” rises to power (Ether 10:9). “Moroni used Ether’s account of the Jaredites to teach lessons and give warnings to his readers, particularly the future occupants of his homeland—the Jaredite and Nephite promised land, today called America. The notes are numbered to correspond with the 37 points above. In addition to this, totem poles in North America resemble totem poles fashioned at Gobekli Tepe; and the hands carved onto the large statues on Easter Island contain similarities to the hands carved on the T-shaped pillars at Gobekli Tepe. (Although we should note we don’t know where the Jaredites left from nor their path) Note he also did this journey unexperienced in ocean travel. Joseph Smith once wrote that the Jaredites “traveled they know not where, but at length arrived in the country of Aztalan [Wisconsin], of the lake country of America.” Because of this, some have suggested that the Jaredites came to America through the St. Lawrence River and then into the Great Lakes. So it would be cool to learn more about these crystal-seeking mesolithic mountain men. Moroni’s America Today In 1936, when LDS scholars first began accepting the two-Cumorah theory, Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith warned the Saints. So when Mormon says that the Jaredites came from the great tower, it could conceivably mean that they came from the great hill. 1500 to 300 B.C. Essentially, it’s turned the soul-less, faceless, supposedly “before 4000 BC ‘pre-Adamites'” into living, breathing, praying, worshiping, caring human beings who knew their God and were known by Him. If you are looking for plausible evidence of the Jaredites and Nephites in North America from 3000 BC to 500 AD, you will find all sorts of information by reputable archaeologists and scientists. A close reading of Genesis reveals that there were no temples mentioned being built from the dawn of creation until the descendants of Noah supposedly decided to get together and build a tower to get to heaven. Some of the skele­tons were esti­mat­ed to be 7 … Completely agree with your timeline, all though some points i disagree with mainly the points about the lord and Jesus Christ, those seem fanciful. Gobekli Tepe was mysteriously and intentionally buried, and then abandoned. This is after all, just a theory. ( Log Out /  5.artifacts match art and symbols from egypt,south,central and north america-artifact proof 6.will prove the jamestown slate is a jaredite slate-artifact proof 7.african egyptians were given america as a inheritance-artifact proof 8. this ancient civilization created and used all metals 1000s of years before modern man-artifact proof 9. This verse definitely opens up the possibility that Father Adam, the pre-Abraham patriarchs, and even the brother of Jared were much earlier than 4,000 years before Christ–perhaps a great many thousand years before. He explains that he “knew not that the Lord had flesh and blood.” It makes you wonder what he expected the Lord to look like. ( Log Out /  While this lack of sails could have been a stylistic choice, or a necessity due to circumstance, it is very possible that the Jaredites used no sails in their journey precisely because sails hadn’t been invented yet. But since the Sumerian language emerged around 8,000 years after Gobekli Tepe, how could the Gobekli-Jaredite theory explain this? From what I can gather, the hunter-gatherers who built Gobekli Tepe likely believed in a very different type of deity than we Latter-day Saints do. I remember learning in seminary/Sunday school that the Tower of Babel wasn’t so much a tower tall enough to reach heaven, as it was an unauthorized temple intended to perform saving ceremonies. They lived almost exclusively in North America for exactly thirty-two generations, after which time they annihilated There are a lot of things that suggest the Adena were the Jaredites, but the biggest obstacle to making such an emphatic statement is the fact that we don’t have definite dates on when the Jaredites arrived in North America or when that final battle took place that wiped them out. Rick, I appreciate your comment. It would’ve been a major event in their family history. Ether records the journeying Jaredites carrying with them “all manner of that which was upon the face of the land, seeds of every kind” (Ether 2:3). And then the planet went through a 1,200-year transition period following that with more megafloods and climate change. Yes, He reveals Himself and shows a graduate-degree-level vision of complete human history to the brother of Jared, but he treats him like a child. The Jaredites are widely believed to have landed in (or at least occupied at some point) Mexico, and soon after their arrival we’re told they “began to till the earth” (Ether 6:13). 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I admit, the title of the blog post is a bit clickbaitish, but I did try to be clear in the text by saying it was a theory and a hypothesis, and by saying at the beginning, “Of course, it’s all speculation, so take it with a grain of salt”. If the Jaredites arrived in the New World, not in 2600 BC as the popular model goes, but around 8,000 BC, then they would have been there at the same time as horses. There are four commonly proposed. He keeps things simple, clear, and fundamental. But on a quiet, secluded mountain in the presence of Jesus Christ, he could. Now, I don’t know for sure if the Gobekli-Jaredite theory accurately explains the true origin of the book of Ether; and I don’t know if the Tower of Babel is based off of a Neolithic temple built in Anatolia by hunter-gatherers, but I sure think it can explain a lot of things that our current, 2600-BC view can’t. But around 8,000-10,000 BC, hunter-gatherers were just beginning to start farming, and the world’s first temple had only recently been built. Jaredite evidence can be found in North, South and Central America origins in northeast North America.There will be … Which, to me, is the most beautiful thing I’ve learned from researching this whole thing. Food for thought. Jaredites had a true civilization from about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language#:~:text=The%20results%20suggest%20that%20language,when%20modern%20Homo%20sapiens%20evolved. Also, note that the first generation of Jaredites are never said to create a city. If you go back to 8,000 or 10,000 BC however, then it’s definitely more plausible. A similar handbag carving has been found in Olmec stone art in La Venta, Mexico that dates to somewhere between 1200-400 BC. The book of Ether is usually assumed to cover a period of around 2,000 years (about twice that of the Nephite history). Recent radiocarbon analysis dates it to around 321 BC. King Lib built a Jaredite city near the narrow neck. So how do we reconcile this with Ether 3:15? The Jaredite land Northward was the same as the Nephite north country (Hel 4:7-8, Hel 6:8, Hel 7:1, Hel 3:3-12, Omni 1:22). Wikipedia: Bighorn sheep "crossed to North America over the Bering land bridge" Bighorn sheep were native to North America at the time the the Jaredites arrived. Mammoths could have easily been present in North America at the time of the Jaredites (the only time that elephants are mentioned in the Book of Mormon). Perhaps this is why the brother of Jared was so surprised when he saw the Lord–because as a hunter-gatherer who may have worshiped stone pillars at the first temple in the world, he wasn’t expecting a God to be so fleshy or so man-like. 6:28, Ether 1:3-5, 33). There are four commonly proposed. If you impose your compass on a map, you will see that most of North America is included in a 90-degree “northward” direction if you start from Central America (Orange Line). This spot would have attracted hordes of hunter-gatherer groups to find food. Also, they say the whole story is a myth anyway and was based on a ziggurat built by the Babylonians around 800 BC—much later than the assumed departure date of the Jaredites (~2600 BC). This of course, predates a Jaredite departure date of 2600 BC by centuries. They don’t necessarily have one leader. Touch These Stones That They May Shine. While the rise of agriculture in Mexico immediately following Gobekli Tepe’s abandonment may be a pure coincidence, it also may be an indicator that the Jaredites came from the great tower (where agriculture originated) around 8,000 BC. 10,000 years ago, written language wasn’t yet a thing. If Nimrod established Ur, built the great tower, and had a valley named after him just north of the tower (Ether 2:1), then it’s likely that Ur is also close to the tower. The brother of Jared didn’t even know that he had to pray often, much less daily, like you and I know, because he was just a beginner at this stuff. This especially could have been an extinct giant bison, Bison antiquus, that roamed the plains of America and was hunted by humans around 10,000 years ago. Be hunter-gatherers at the world’s first temple. Including us, all three groups occupy the promised land. One thing that critics claim is evidence of the Book of Mormon being a forgery is the story of the Jaredites coming from the Tower of Babel. Seasonal rounds and ceremonies were performed each moon. These creatures were impressive and abundant–more impressive, say some, than probably any other region on earth at the time or now. 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